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Пока вчера все летали я плотничал и жарил шашлык на даче. Теперь моя очередь  :) . Слетал на 300er OMDB-LTBA. Быстродействие в норме. Теперь 2 хотелки: FS2Crew для 777 и такой же погодный радар в NGX  :icon_razz:

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Его делать одну минуту, вы писали на форуме вопрос дольше :eh:

 

Если бы я знал то тогда наверное не спрашивал бы.

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1. Создать файл блокнотом, обозвать gsx.cfg

 

2. Скопировать и вставить значения, как в прикрепленном файле

 

3. Создать папку, обозвать ее PMDG 777-300ER, положить по адресу С:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Virtualli\Airplanes

 

4. Скопировать туда получившийся gsx.cfg

 

Профит!

 

 

 

 

 

 

gsx.txt

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Спасибо тебе огромное! - Добрый человек! :)

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А кто нибудь может, нарисовать ливрею ТСО, на B773? А то скучновато без Тсошников.

Да, и еще бы Asiana Airlines

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rsrandazzo has just posted a new topic entitled "22Jul14 - Sp1 Monitoring Items Updated" in forum "PMDG General Forum".
 
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Captains-
 
I am initiating this thread in order to provide a bit more information on our efforts to squash some items that appear to be affecting some users.  Please note that this is not intended to be an "all inclusive" thread, and as such you should refrain from responding to this thread with "have you looked at" or, worse, orders that I should examine some other item because it is not addressed here.  Generally speaking we are vacuuming up reports from all over the forum and support.
 
Okay- with that being said:
 
We are currently focused primarily on issues of "display/cockpit/airplane freezes" and "FSX whole-sim pauses."
 
PAUSING BEHAVIOR OF FSX:
We are still investigating this behavior with the help of the many reports we have collected from users here and via technical support.  As of this moment, we suspect that the pausing problem is not in the 777, but is caused by some defect in FSX but is aggravated by the 777.  One of the challenges we have had in resolving this issue is that none of our Tech or Beta team sees the problem- nor do any of our developers.  We have reached out to a couple of users who have the problem in a severe form- and we securing access to their machines in order to conduct further research.
 
I am confident that we will ultimately identify the problem- and even if we cannot fix it we can certainly begin the process of developing strategies to mitigate it.  Depending upon what the core of the problem turns out to be- we might be able to make changes to the 777 that reduce the product's tendency to aggravate the underlying condition...
 
Work continues and we will give you occasional progress updates in this regard.
 
(NOTE:  We are calling this a PAUSE intentionally- because in almost all cases, users report that the sim eventually un-pauses and continues on as if nothing had happened.  It would be most helpful if you guys would adopt the same terminology- because it will help us to know that you are talking about THIS issue...)
 
 
COCKPIT DISPLAY FREEZE CONDITION 1:  
We are still researching a situation that some users induce by having multiple external view windows overlaid on top of their virtual cockpit while flying.  This can occasionally cause the VC displays to cease updating- and it appears as if they have died when in fact clicking on the displays will show you that the pop-ups are updating normally even if the VC displays are not.  We have learned that you can "un-freeze" the VC displays by clicking on any switch on the overhead panel (the lights or fuel pumps for example) and then life continues on normally.
 
This is a nuisance in that it can be easily resolved by closing the external views or clicking on the overhead panel as described, (and it is related to a know problem in FSX) but we think there may be some ways to prevent it and we are researching those methods.
 
 
COCKPIT DISPLAY FREEZE CONDITION 2:
We received a number of reports from users that during flight the displays would cease updating, the cockpit would cease to respond to clicks, and the flight controls would freeze, rendering the airplane uncontrollable.
 
This issue has been resolved and will be corrected by an update to SP1 shortly.  We collected a significant number of reports of this behavior, and after some back and forth with reporting customers, we found and fixed this issue.  The issue relates to a condition in which the user would establish a set of flight conditions that would allow the FMS to effectively progress beyond the end of the useful navigation information.  This could be done by not entering a flight plan, entering a flight plan that was extremely short, leaving a disconnect between the route and the arrival and then flying through the disconnect, flying past the end of the planned route without an arrival selected, doing the same with an arrival not connected to an approach, etc.  (There are probably 200 other ways you could do this...)  When the FMS would progress beyond it's last useful navigation segment, we wound up with an unprotected mathematical equation and the airplane could cease responding....  This has been resolved and is in testing currently.
 
In the mean time- make certain you have a flight plan and path all the way to the ground and you won't run into THIS problem.  (You don't have to program your arrival and approach and runway until later in the flight, just don't fly beyond the end of the route you do have planned...  Simple, right?)
 
It is sort of amusing that this went unnoticed- but our beta team is doing a very good job of flying the airplane as it was intended- and some of you are doing a good job of flying the airplane as... it wasn't intended to be flown.  :ph34r:
 
THANK YOU to those who were involved in exchanging information with us on this on... 
 
AIRPLANE BANKS AGGRESSIVELY IN 8x or 16x:
This issue has been identified and we are currently examining ways to resolve it.  The issue comes up when a user places a long navigation segment into the FMS and then asks the airplane to fly that segment in accelerated time.  At 2x or 4x the airplane manages the mathematics without too much problem, but at 8x and greater speeds the airplane is unable to crunch through all of the great circle mathematics with enough precision to prevent it from effectively "cracking the whip" on the very long navigation segment.
 
While we work on a fix for this- we recommend avoiding the programming of very long leg segments into your route of flight.  Generally speaking, using a flight planning program that works realistically, such as PFPX, will keep you clear of trouble.  (Many, but not all of the users we interviewed when tracking this issue were reporting the behavior on legs in excess of 400nm...  the average leg length was around 1200nm and one fellow even had a 6000nm leg programmed..  The CEP (circle error probable) on a leg of that length becomes rather excessive and while the airplane can handle it at normal time- getting into higher acceleration rates makes it almost impossible to compute solutions fast enough and with enough accuracy to prevent the wing wagging....
 
We are working on a long term solution for this and we will keep you posted.
 
SHIP'S CLOCK AND FMS CLOCK OUT OF SYNC:
We exchanged some information with a few users reporting this item and we found that this problem can be caused by using a panel state file that was created with the RTM v1.00 of the 777.  We were unable to maintain compatibility with the older versions so we encourage users to delete all of their old panel state files and create new ones using the SP1 version of the 777.  We feel confident that doings so will prevent this problem from occurring.
 
AND SOME ITEMS I FORGOT:
I am certain that once Ryan reads this he will remind me that I forgot to tell you about something else- so I am putting this slot here so that I can come back and list those items below this line. B)
 
 
 
UPDATE TIMELINE:
We are currently planning to issue an interim SP1 update (SP1b) before the coming weekend.  This update will not be mandatory- but we recommend it for any users who are experiencing problems that we have resolved by the time it is built.
 
This update will install right over the top of any existing 777 installation, for ease of use on your end.
 
 
Okay- back to chasing down pauses...  Thanks for your support of the 777- you guys have really done a great job feeding us information to help nail down these obscure items- and the cooperation is very much appreciated!

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Коллеги, а никто не подскажет, где на эту птицу взять ливрейку в тех же цветах что и 777-9x? Это которая как стандартная боинговская, только красная? Может есть такая в природе?

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Может кому пригодятся сии картинки для расчета Derate.

 

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Скажите, а в pdf случайно нет? Хочется шрифт более четкий :)

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Обращайтесь :)

 

С табличками просто песня, взлетает как надо, плавненько и красиво :) Спасибо одному хорошему человеку.

 

Полтора часа назад из ДМД взлетал на 200-ке, ASN нарисовал грозу, дак вел спокойно руками до 5000 в болтанке, а без табличек была полная Ж....А :)

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 Надо ссылки куда-нибудь сныкать. Не любит, говорят, Boeing своей документации на форумах :).

 

 Я тут в FCTM прочитал, что если у 300ER на полосе создать угол в 9 градусов, то хвост будет в 41 см от земли. Блин, теперь бояться буду :)

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А куда их сныкать? ;) Чтоб найти народ смог :)

 

Зачем такой большой угол делать? Вроде как пишут отрыв потихоньку до 5-ти градусов, да и автоматика у него стоит, чтоб хвостом по земле не чиркать, не даст больше нос задрать.

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А куда их сныкать? ;)

 

 

 С администрацией форума надо обсудить. Оно, конечно, может и ничего, но бережёного бог бережёт :)

 

 Зачем такой большой угол делать? Вроде как пишут отрыв потихоньку до 5-ти градусов, да и автоматика у него стоит, чтоб хвостом по земле не чиркать, не даст больше нос задрать.

 

 

  Тут дело в скорости создания взлётного угла. На 737 вполне работает формула Дениса Оканя "три банана". А на 777 даже и не знаю. 

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Блин, ну напугали меня с этими табличками :)

 

Администрация, может придумаем чего? ;)

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Ничего не придумаем, ща под спойлер уберем и всё. Если официальный представитель напишет - удалим.

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 На приснопамятном сайте такие вещи как правило отдают через личку по просьбе. И волки сыты и овцы целы :)

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А куда их сныкать? ;) Чтоб найти народ смог :)

 

Зачем такой большой угол делать? Вроде как пишут отрыв потихоньку до 5-ти градусов, да и автоматика у него стоит, чтоб хвостом по земле не чиркать, не даст больше нос задрать.

про автоматику есть такая тема. только я не пойму реализована или нет. суть в чем: изначально я прочитал FCTM для 772, там рекомендации одни по поводу liftoff, но я чет не сообразил сразу, что 773 то подлиннее будет. Ну я и махнул тангаж как на 772, и тут меня трухнуло, видимо хвостом цепанул. В среднем 7-9 градусов нормальный тангаж. 

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про автоматику есть такая тема. только я не пойму реализована или нет. суть в чем: изначально я прочитал FCTM для 772, там рекомендации одни по поводу liftoff, но я чет не сообразил сразу, что 773 то подлиннее будет. Ну я и махнул тангаж как на 772, и тут меня трухнуло, видимо хвостом цепанул. В среднем 7-9 градусов нормальный тангаж. 

 

PMDG 777 Intro, page 171:

 

Tailstrike avoidance:

The 777-300ER fuselage is significantly longer than the 777-200LR or 777F are and is at a greater risk for tailstrikes on takeoff and landing. Older 777-300ER models have a tailskid installed to protect the fuselage while newer versions of the aircraft are omitting the tailskid and relying purely on the FBW system’s tailstrike protection mode that increases control loading to prevent the tail from hitting the ground. The latter option reduces weight and increases maximum payload. Both options are simulated in the PMDG 777-300ER. You will notice a distinct difference in the feel of the 300ER vs. the 200LR/F during takeoff and landing because of the system’s more aggressive control loading.

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В среднем 7-9 градусов нормальный тангаж. 

 

 9 градусов - предел для 300ER, если основные стойки ещё катятся. В FCTM есть таблица. 

 

 Я не могу найти в FCTM рекомендации за какое время, после команды rotate  желательно создать взлётный угол. 

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Если у кого вышибало сим при полете на 777 (либо с другими типами) с ошибкой BEX StackHash_xxxxx, как у меня вчера (абыдна блин), то можно попробовать оключить DEP в системе через консоль.

Запускаем консоль с правами админа, вводим bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff, жмем Enter, перезагружаем.

Чтобы включить назад вводим bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOn и перезагружаем.

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парни, подскажите, только у меня радиус четкой отрисовки земли при полете на 777 уменьшился? вроде и не совсем гадко, сносно, но хотелось бы подальше чтобы земля четко рисовалась.

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9 градусов - предел для 300ER, если основные стойки ещё катятся. В FCTM есть таблица.

Я не могу найти в FCTM рекомендации за какое время, после команды rotate желательно создать взлётный угол.

У меня нет FCTM от PMDG, но в других можете поискать картинку в параграфе typical roation, all engines. В общем, за 4 секунды достигаете 9*, за 6.5 уже набираете 35' и имеете 14*. Edited by rsvit
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У меня нет FCTM от PMDG, но в других можете поискать картинку в параграфе typical roation, all engines. В общем, за 4 секунды достигаете 9*, за 6.5 уже набираете 35' и имеете 14*.

 

 Благодарю, сейчас поищем.

 

зы. Нашёл. Раздел называется Rotation and liftoff - all engines.

 

 парни, подскажите, только у меня радиус четкой отрисовки земли при полете на 777 уменьшился? вроде и не совсем гадко, сносно, но хотелось бы подальше чтобы земля четко рисовалась.

 

 

 У меня всё нормально. Никаких изменений не наблюдаю.

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Доброго времени суток! При посадке на 777-300 заметил у себя одну странную вещь: сразу после касания самолет немного "подбрасывает" (не знаю как это толком назвать), но при этом шасси от земли не отрываются. Как будто бы козлит. Было это в двух разных аэропортах с разной вертикалкой.  Кто-нибудь знает, что это может быть?

 

UPD. Нашел видео как раз с этим.

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